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		<title>Comment on Outlook 2010 and Thunderbird by David Sommerseth</title>
		<link>http://www.poorlyrendered.com/2010/12/outlook-2010-and-thunderbird/comment-page-1/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sommerseth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@Westad Noen sammenligninger: http://t.co/hxaphVZT http://t.co/9aePoOix http://t.co/NpTyMi6c http://t.co/aSpQ5Dow&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@Westad Noen sammenligninger: <a href="http://t.co/hxaphVZT" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/hxaphVZT</a> <a href="http://t.co/9aePoOix" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/9aePoOix</a> <a href="http://t.co/NpTyMi6c" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/NpTyMi6c</a> <a href="http://t.co/aSpQ5Dow" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/aSpQ5Dow</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Linux for Consumers by Keith Fyans</title>
		<link>http://www.poorlyrendered.com/2010/04/linux-for-consumers/comment-page-1/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Fyans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2011 15:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally true. From personal experience trying to claim that even Ubuntu or Mint work out the box is fallacious. The amount of time and effort it took me to get the wireless card working on my netbook with Ubuntu was ridiculous; I&#039;m passing it on to a friend soon and I&#039;ll deffo be switching back to Win7 before I do; the person in question likes ubuntu but &quot;[dosn&#039;t] want to bother with the constant upkeep it requires.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally true. From personal experience trying to claim that even Ubuntu or Mint work out the box is fallacious. The amount of time and effort it took me to get the wireless card working on my netbook with Ubuntu was ridiculous; I&#8217;m passing it on to a friend soon and I&#8217;ll deffo be switching back to Win7 before I do; the person in question likes ubuntu but &#8220;[dosn't] want to bother with the constant upkeep it requires.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Linux for Consumers by Jared Earle</title>
		<link>http://www.poorlyrendered.com/2010/04/linux-for-consumers/comment-page-1/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Earle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2011 07:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;.@jearle http://t.co/mGwFjgzi&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">.@jearle <a href="http://t.co/mGwFjgzi" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/mGwFjgzi</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Spadge&#8217;s Adventures in Userland: Linux on the desktop revisited by chaslinux</title>
		<link>http://www.poorlyrendered.com/2011/05/spadges-adventures-in-userland-linux-on-the-desktop-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator>chaslinux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@chaslinux Like this: http://bit.ly/lTpuSe :)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@chaslinux Like this: <a href="http://bit.ly/lTpuSe" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/lTpuSe</a> <img src='http://www.poorlyrendered.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Spadge&#8217;s Adventures in Userland: Linux on the desktop revisited by Marcus Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.poorlyrendered.com/2011/05/spadges-adventures-in-userland-linux-on-the-desktop-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 18:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmmmm, still sticking with Sabayon myself. It seems stable. Not that I have anything specific against Ubuntu (even Kubuntu although I never liked KDE THAT much), but I do want to give KDE a proper go now that it&#039;s 4.somethingstable. I tried gentoo, but the compilation process seems to be horrendous (probably because I am trying to get an Acer Netbook to do the donkey work, and we all know you have to know your hardware and match it up in the make file before undertaking a serious compile. 

I have yet to understand why you can&#039;t just export the settings from a working kernel that manages to boot your system and simply use those to recompile a kernel in a chrooted environment but I suspect Google is probably my friend when it comes to situations like this...

Keep up the informed posts, Spadge, it&#039;s a tonic for the troops!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmmmm, still sticking with Sabayon myself. It seems stable. Not that I have anything specific against Ubuntu (even Kubuntu although I never liked KDE THAT much), but I do want to give KDE a proper go now that it&#8217;s 4.somethingstable. I tried gentoo, but the compilation process seems to be horrendous (probably because I am trying to get an Acer Netbook to do the donkey work, and we all know you have to know your hardware and match it up in the make file before undertaking a serious compile. </p>
<p>I have yet to understand why you can&#8217;t just export the settings from a working kernel that manages to boot your system and simply use those to recompile a kernel in a chrooted environment but I suspect Google is probably my friend when it comes to situations like this&#8230;</p>
<p>Keep up the informed posts, Spadge, it&#8217;s a tonic for the troops!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Adobe should release a Flash Player for iPhone OS by Solved: how to show if Apple or Adobe is right about Flash on the iPhone</title>
		<link>http://www.poorlyrendered.com/2010/05/adobe-should-release-a-flash-player-for-iphone-os/comment-page-1/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>Solved: how to show if Apple or Adobe is right about Flash on the iPhone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8211; as Scott Earle (aka @poorlyrendered) points out &#8211; there is a way for Adobe to show that Apple is wrong, completely wrong, and that Adobe is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; as Scott Earle (aka @poorlyrendered) points out &#8211; there is a way for Adobe to show that Apple is wrong, completely wrong, and that Adobe is [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outlook 2010 and Thunderbird by Spadge</title>
		<link>http://www.poorlyrendered.com/2010/12/outlook-2010-and-thunderbird/comment-page-1/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Spadge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KMail

1) Must be secure. Email is private, and this needs to be built in from the start. No defaulting to non-SSL/TLS.
Accounts have SSL/TLS as standard, identities have PGP built in.

2) Must support IMAP.
Yes.

3) Must tell me as soon as possible when I have new email.
Yes, in a number of different ways, and ties in to KDE&#039;s notification thingumy and the message indicator and has its own thing – all configurable.

4) Must allow me to read mail in any folder.
Yes. I think. It&#039;s proper IMAP. 

5) Must allow me to send email, including replies and forwarding.
Yes.

6) Must give me access to attachments.
I think you have to DL them and stuff.

7) Must save all my sent messages.
It has local folders for saving drafts, sent, outgoing, deleted. But not for your email, although there is an offline mode (whatever that&#039;s for – I&#039;ve heard of offline but I wouldn&#039;t want to visit).

8) Must keep track of people I know and their email addresses.
Yes. Integrates with Kontacts.

9) Should allow me to view email sent in HTML.
Yes. Configurable with a little html on/off button

10) Should show inline images.
Erm, send me one and I will tell you.

11) Should allow me to turn off bits I don’t want. Notes? Don’t use them. Todos? Nope.
It&#039;s an email client. It just does email. Other stuff happens elsewhere in KDE.

12) Nice if it has calendar support (or even better – integration)
Kmail does not, but it integrates with KOrganiser which does. I think. I don&#039;t know, I don&#039;t use it.

13) Nice if it can show attachments of various types.
I rather suspect it doesn&#039;t, you know.

I first came across KMail that one time my Windows PC blew up and I used my FreeBSD4 (.10? That tells you when it was I guess) server as a desktop while I was waiting for replacement parts. Took me a day or more just to compile KDE on a Celeron 400 but hey, that&#039;s what you do it for, right?

After I got my Windows computer fixed I couldn&#039;t then go back to Eudora, and I think that&#039;s when Thunderbird took over. Eudora had switched me off of Forte Agent. One of my happiest joys of running kubuntu as my regular desktop was getting KMail back.

It does that thing that mail.app on the iPhone does and that outlook doesn&#039;t: select a block of text, hit reply and it only quotes the selected text. It&#039;s like my favourite non-required feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KMail</p>
<p>1) Must be secure. Email is private, and this needs to be built in from the start. No defaulting to non-SSL/TLS.<br />
Accounts have SSL/TLS as standard, identities have PGP built in.</p>
<p>2) Must support IMAP.<br />
Yes.</p>
<p>3) Must tell me as soon as possible when I have new email.<br />
Yes, in a number of different ways, and ties in to KDE&#8217;s notification thingumy and the message indicator and has its own thing – all configurable.</p>
<p>4) Must allow me to read mail in any folder.<br />
Yes. I think. It&#8217;s proper IMAP. </p>
<p>5) Must allow me to send email, including replies and forwarding.<br />
Yes.</p>
<p>6) Must give me access to attachments.<br />
I think you have to DL them and stuff.</p>
<p>7) Must save all my sent messages.<br />
It has local folders for saving drafts, sent, outgoing, deleted. But not for your email, although there is an offline mode (whatever that&#8217;s for – I&#8217;ve heard of offline but I wouldn&#8217;t want to visit).</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.poorlyrendered.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Must keep track of people I know and their email addresses.<br />
Yes. Integrates with Kontacts.</p>
<p>9) Should allow me to view email sent in HTML.<br />
Yes. Configurable with a little html on/off button</p>
<p>10) Should show inline images.<br />
Erm, send me one and I will tell you.</p>
<p>11) Should allow me to turn off bits I don’t want. Notes? Don’t use them. Todos? Nope.<br />
It&#8217;s an email client. It just does email. Other stuff happens elsewhere in KDE.</p>
<p>12) Nice if it has calendar support (or even better – integration)<br />
Kmail does not, but it integrates with KOrganiser which does. I think. I don&#8217;t know, I don&#8217;t use it.</p>
<p>13) Nice if it can show attachments of various types.<br />
I rather suspect it doesn&#8217;t, you know.</p>
<p>I first came across KMail that one time my Windows PC blew up and I used my FreeBSD4 (.10? That tells you when it was I guess) server as a desktop while I was waiting for replacement parts. Took me a day or more just to compile KDE on a Celeron 400 but hey, that&#8217;s what you do it for, right?</p>
<p>After I got my Windows computer fixed I couldn&#8217;t then go back to Eudora, and I think that&#8217;s when Thunderbird took over. Eudora had switched me off of Forte Agent. One of my happiest joys of running kubuntu as my regular desktop was getting KMail back.</p>
<p>It does that thing that mail.app on the iPhone does and that outlook doesn&#8217;t: select a block of text, hit reply and it only quotes the selected text. It&#8217;s like my favourite non-required feature.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Outlook 2010 and Thunderbird by ???nq?</title>
		<link>http://www.poorlyrendered.com/2010/12/outlook-2010-and-thunderbird/comment-page-1/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>???nq?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 03:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Outlook 2010 sucks @ Poorly Rendered http://j.mp/hNz1Rn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Outlook 2010 sucks @ Poorly Rendered <a href="http://j.mp/hNz1Rn" rel="nofollow">http://j.mp/hNz1Rn</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on Linux for Consumers by Jared Earle</title>
		<link>http://www.poorlyrendered.com/2010/04/linux-for-consumers/comment-page-1/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Earle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@proactivepaul Also, did you read @sfromley&#039;s post about Ubuntu? I wish you all the best. http://23x.me/BY&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@proactivepaul Also, did you read @sfromley&#39;s post about Ubuntu? I wish you all the best. <a href="http://23x.me/BY" rel="nofollow">http://23x.me/BY</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>Comment on The new iPod Touch: iPod? Or iPad? by Bryan Everly</title>
		<link>http://www.poorlyrendered.com/2010/08/the-new-ipod-touch-ipod-or-ipad/comment-page-1/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Everly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Via Poorly Rendered - &quot;The new iPod Touch:  iPod or #iPad?&quot;  http://bit.ly/bfUiYl&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Via Poorly Rendered &#8211; &quot;The new iPod Touch:  iPod or #iPad?&quot;  <a href="http://bit.ly/bfUiYl" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bfUiYl</a></span></span></span></p>
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